 | I scored as Neo orthodox. According to this test I reject the human-centredness and scepticism of liberal theology, but I don't go to the other extreme and make the Bible the central issue for faith. I believe that Christ is God's most important revelation to humanity (this almost-Bible-versus-Jesus extreme was based on two whole questions), and the Trinity is hugely important in my theology. The Bible is also important because it points us to the revelation of Christ. You are influenced by Karl Barth and P T Forsyth.
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Tuesday, August 16, 2005
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You scored as Evangelical Holiness/Wesleyan.
You are an evangelical in the Wesleyan tradition. You believe that God's grace enables you to choose to believe in him, even though you yourself are totally depraved. The gift of the Holy Spirit gives you assurance of your salvation, and he also enables you to live the life of obedience to which God has called us. You are influenced heavly by John Wesley and the Methodists.
Fundamentalist, Emergent/Postmodern, Neo orthodox all followed close behind.
My first one was the same as Robin's (82%), with Fundamentalist(68%)and Reformed Evangelical (64%)fairly close behind it.
I am glad to see that both Liberalism and Fundamentalism are so low in my profile.
(I hope they are not using Fundamentalism in the popular inaccurate sense of people-who-want-to-enforce-their-religion-with-guns.
That would be somewhere near the bottom of the list, too.)
You said “You are influenced by Karl Barth and P T Forsyth” meaning “I am influenced by Karl Barth and P T Forsyth.” This is wrong.
The correct answer was “I am influenced by Karl Barth and P T Forsyth.” meaning “You are influenced by Karl Barth and P T Forsyth”
And while we're at it, “Ow, my eye! I'm not supposed to get pudding in it!”
Shroom is correct. I was editing the html text and missed that one. Way to go, Lenny!
Here's mine:
You scored as Charismatic/Pentecostal.
You are a charismatic or pentecostal believer. You believe in the primacy of spiritual gifts and the importance of renewal of the body of Christ. You are likely to be suspicious of or even hostile to older non-charismatic churches and revival is high on your list of priorities. You are a firm believer that God's Spirit is as active today as in biblical times and you are likely to devote less time to academic study of the Bible and theology.
The Vineyard is seen as "empowered evangelicals" meaning they've tried to take the best of both sides: strong on the word and it's importance as well as leaving lots of room for the holy Spirit and the things he wants to do. I don't see myself as being pentecostal though (as I don't believe tongues are the end all B all)
to follow that up.....some of these questions were really hard to answer. there was no "yes or no" answer to them. and when I read the conclusion of "what I am" it doesn't really fit. My beliefs and worldview are just very "Vineyard" so that's more where I fall in line with
"The Vineyard is seen as...." Seen by whom? By this test? (I only answered the questions and didn't read any background stuff.) Or seen by the Vineyard? I think most Evangelical (including Pent or Char) groups would describe themselves (accurately or not) as having the same balance (except for those fringy groups which consciously choose one over the other). Most do not want to be seen as either rejecting Biblical authority or resisting the active work of the living God. (This is intended as a legit question, not a criticism.)
You may be correct in distinguishing yourself from "Pentecostal" (such as older denominations with the word in their name), because I think many of them do still have it in their belief statements (whether believed by their membership or not) that tongues is "the sign gift" of "Spirit baptism", maybe not the end all be all, but close to it. If you believe in the importance of umm "spectacular" gifts, but reject the necessity of tongues as a sign of Spirit fullness, then I'd say "Charismatic" is the more accurate label than "Pentecostal" (speaking in relative terms).
And I don't take this test very seriously. Not very many questions and yes several questions where answering in the middle seems the best choice. Hey, I'm going to try that for every question and see what happens.
Boo! They didn't let me do it!
One weakness among many of this test is that one might have a strong opinion on a certain question, but just not understand it. For eg. "Sola Scriptura is the most important doctrine." Many people might believe that all their doctrine should be derived from the Bible only, but not understand the Latin term for that.
Well, we are funny mentals:) (fundamentals) with evangelical holiness/wesleyan next and then I moved away before seeing the rest so I'm curious though I know a few that would be at the bottom:)
I guess I am joining the crowd.
"You scored as Evangelical Holiness/Wesleyan."
Well - I am joining the crowd - although the difference between my high and low score is not all that big.
You scored as Evangelical Holiness/Wesleyan.
Evangelical Holiness/Wesleyan 75%
Emergent/Postmodern 68%
Charismatic/Pentecostal 57%
Modern Liberal 50%
Classical Liberal 46%
Neo orthodox 46%
Reformed Evangelical 46%
Fundamentalist 46%
Roman Catholic 46%
Years ago in Winnipeg, I was exposed to a list labelled and set up exactly like this one with many similar questions, but in reading through this one, I find some significant changes.
I don't remember the first list being so jargon-infested, or relying on name-dropping (eg: Karl Barth). Put another way, it was more accessible, and IMO, more useful to people not theologically-trained.
I wonder if some seminary students got hold of the list (for which copying and distribution permission had never been issued) and tweaked it, then released it as the one Richard shared...?
Whatever the case, I think that real damage has been done to this list, and it's a shame.
"You scored as Emergent/Postmodern. You are Emergent/Postmodern in your theology. You feel alienated from older forms of church, you don't think they connect to modern culture very well. No one knows the whole truth about God, and we have much to learn from each other, and so learning takes place in dialogue. Evangelism should take place in relationships rather than through crusades and altar-calls. People are interested in spirituality and want to ask questions, so the church should help them to do this.
Emergent/Postmodern=71%
Modern Liberal=61%
Classical Liberal=57%
Roman Catholic=46%
Evangelical Holiness/Wesleyan=46%Charismatic/Pentecostal=39%
Neo orthodox=36%
Reformed Evangelical=21%
Fundamentalist=0%
Having tried this quiz, I have an even lower opinion of it, ebcause the questions are ineptly put. For example, I do not call myself a Christian, but if asked, I would agree that for Christians, the doctrine of the Trinity is central; I usually put my answers to questions like this (and Karl Barth, etc) square in the middle between Agree and Disagree (there should have been an NA section, maybe), but since they are weighted in any case, they skew the results of the quiz.
Anyway, it was fun. I find myself determined to dig up that first quiz of which i spoke, to share it online.
I'm glad you tried this quiz and I'm pretty sure you understand already that I dont endorse it!! Your analyses of (only some of) its faults are helpful. I suspect that you are right that some (Christianly-oriented) theological students made it up for each other to play around with and it got out into the open where it really doesnt work.
Yep. Your disclaimer even made it to my blog {grin}! (http://anothercountry.blogspot.com)
I am really going to look for that original one. {determined frown}
Found it. Have a look at http://anothercountry.blogspot.com
Depending on the day, I scored either as a fundamentalist (please don't burn me at the stake) or as an Evangelical Holiness/ Wesleyan. Many of the survey's questions require serious qualification and reworking to give an accurate portrayal of one's theological stand.
Probably the most alarming question is the one that Richard specifically refers to in his blog, that is "The person of Christ, rather than the Bible, is the central focus of God's self-revelation". It is clear from the 2nd chapter of Acts (v.42) that revelation and worship of Christ after his resurrection had its basis in and through the teaching of the apostles before all else, as the scripture reads "They were continually devoting themselves to the apostles' teaching and to fellowship, to the breaking of bread and to prayer." It is also clear that any "Jesus" preached outside of what the apostles taught was not the real "Jesus", as Paul says in 2 Corinthians 11:4, "For if one comes and preaches another Jesus whom we have not preached, or you receive a different spirit which you have not received, or a different gospel which you have not accepted, you bear this beautifully." The point is, is that the correct statement one must make a decision about is "The person of Christ, as revealed in the Bible, is the central focus of God's self-revelation." Otherwise, if you believe "It's Jesus not the Bible", you risk believing in a false Jesus. If you believe "It's the Bible, not Jesus", you risk believing in unitarianism or making an idol of a book. Either way, the question as worded points to heresy.
I may be expanding on this in my blog at http://hirenny.mindsay.com/.
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